11/12 - The Siege of Sunday!

Thank you as I was reading this I looked over at the otherside of my desk (L shap) and see my second keyboard peaking out from under a pile of crap someone threw on my desk kids

 

Like I mentioned in my Communities Characterizations post this morning before it was deleted,
and through everyone's experiences trying to help Sam,
this isn't currently the ideal place for someone that's "brand spanking new" to mTurk.



I think a lot of the new people will, as you said, be helped more by stumbling on old MTG posts through Google.
A lot of the stuff when I was first starting was through old posts on old forums by Clickhappier.
Maybe there's a lot of beginner resources here that I don't know about, but I doubt it.

 

The difference between killing yourself in stare-zone for $70 and taking it easy for $40-$50 is what I learned. I'm not killing myself for those last few bucks.

 

I googled everything for months before I started asking people specific questions. Baby birds cheeping for free worms irks the shit out of me.

 

FWIW, Mturk Members on Facebook is full of people who have just barely mastered the basics ("How do I install Insane Pandas?") and want to feel important by passing that info onto total newbies.
So maybe that's a decent place to steer the newcomer for basic training.
Just make sure to emphasize that they shouldn't stay there once they outgrow it.

 

lol i'm the highest earner this week on said FB group >_> i feel bad

 

MTC actually has a decent amount of good threads to read up on and we have a wiki that COULD do the same thing but meh lazy.

 

All you gotta do is watch the forum and hack a script.

Remember when google requesters didn't have that annoying timeout? Pepperidge Farm remembers. You could hack any google script to press buttons in like 2 minutes. It's not something I would publish but it was effective, faster than a browser can respond.

That's what I don't get about those super-high returns. A college internet with fast computers... I flat-out can't beat $12-hour on mTurk's ability to render pages *alone*. I don't get it.

 

@Randomacts your anthem is Watch Out by 2 Chainz

You getting mad
I'm getting rich
You getting mad
And I'm getting rich

 

But the rent is too damn high!

 

There are plenty of high earners that don't post their earnings anymore because shit always goes down exactly the way it's going down on Reddit. It's pretty much a 50/50 split between people not believing the numbers, and people overanalyzing/justifying/idolizing them. Frankly, I don't want any of that. I'm not going to be that guy that comes around once a day just to brag about his PE (**shots fired**) or that person that updated everyone on their PE 10x a day just for the praise (**more shots fired**). Except for the IRS, no one knows my actual annual income other than me; I don't even discuss it with friends/family/SO/etc.

I do feel that posting high PEs and weekly reports can help motivate people, so it can serve a legitimate purpose. Frankly though, I'm sick of helping people who don't want to be helped. It all goes down the same way and it always has: "What batches do you work on? You must have masters. What closed quals are those?" And even if you tell people, they'll ask the same damn questions a hundred times. I used to be a helpful dude that would hack together a quick script and share it with the community. I'm not out for accolades, but our community (read: the mturk community, not TH specifically) is by-and-large ignorant and ungrateful. I stopped being helpful and started sh!tposting, and it's a lot more fun

But I'm going to have to side with @ChrisTurk on this one; we have a skewed snapshot of how much people actually make on mTurk. I'm a member of about a half dozen mTurk Facebook groups, and you wouldn't believe how stupid people can be. If you think Reddit is bad, check out Facebook. For every $500 weekly report posted here, there's 50 people elsewhere who don't break $50. I've seen people with masters that complain they can't break $100/week. There are so many people on this platform, and a lot of them suck. Even if someone's the lowest earner on TH, they're probably in the top 50% overall. There are people out there who legitimately grind out p9r and ScoutIt all the time, because that's all they see on the platform and they think that's all that there is.

tl;dr TurkerHub isn't a good cross-section of the community; it's more likely a fairly-homogenized sample from the top.

 

Mmm, idk. For static content I guess I can agree with you, but if I was a total newbie I'd much rather be here than anywhere else.

I mean look at this: https://turkerhub.com/threads/newbie-with-scripts.877/#post-439851

This community is ridiculously helpful to newbies. Its just we don't get a ton of them asking simple questions - and some part of that is what we've done to reduce / eliminate the need to do so. The wiki has infinite amounts of flaws, but the day after it was set up questions about "pandas" dropped like a rock. Anyone who was on MTG should be able to spot the difference in questions revolving Wiki linked content vs the crap we used to get there lmao.

Sam has gotten 99% of his questions answered far beyond even my ability to answer them. The only times its been an issue is when he unacceptably lashes out at people.

We are, by a fair margin, the most active prominent mTurk community at this point - despite being the youngest of them all. We definitely attract newbies and inexperienced workers, but I'd venture very few of them stay at that level for significant amounts of time (on average).

 

I don't see the harm in helping someone who posts asking for help. It doesn't hurt to be kind.

 

This helps illustrate my point. Mturk is a time suck with no guidance. You just wander around for years sometimes without direction. I use to do breligs, thought ProductRnR was the bees knees and stared at the screen waiting for Visual Gnomes to drop. I didn't know any better. It takes a lot of mistakes to learn these lesson and throw in rejections and you get to scared to even try. Come to forum someone says go here. You go thinking it's safer, production goes up.

No one helped me learn how and where to go I did all alone the hard way (of corse). I came to the forums for answers to problems and to help others. That's why I give out anything when someone asks. I even offered to send a few members money for food and to pay an electric bill. I don't care about losing hits to others we can work together and find more. I posted $20 worth of hits this morning just so I wouldn't hear "there's nothing going on". If you saw my inbox it's a damn how to at this point.

I say it everyday... communication is the key.

Now I have to go help this new SAHM out.

 

I would just like to be super clear here that I was not giving any amount of shade to people who earn way more than I do. I've had my fair share of 70-100 buck days, and most of those were either because all my favorite batches were dropping or I stumbled ass first into a high paying batch/scared money.

I'm generally working part-full time at my big girl job on top of my odd array of time consuming hobbies, so I'm generally lazy about the work I do. The fact I had my first 100 dollar day on a day I also worked 8 hours at my normal job was pretty rad, and I think with the right amount of effort/learning their way around turk, any one here can do it too.

Cause, I'm seriously the laziest Grinch on the planet and very thankful for the folks with better work ethic than me when it comes to turking.

Mostly, Bearnie and I love TH and I'm glad all you fine folks are around to shit post with and occasionally point me in the direction of sweet sweet $$$, cause have I mentioned I'm lazy? Spoon feed please (kidding, mostly, I mean, if you want to spoon feed me, I'm 100% never gonna say no bb dolls)

 

lol that one singling out XD

 

I WOULDN'T HAVE FOUND BEARNIE OVERLORD OTHERWISE. ALL HAIL TH AND BEARNIE