12/15 - CALM THE FORK DOWN FRIDAY!!!

MikeTheChef · Dec 15, 2017

3 cee saws

Tecnique · Dec 15, 2017

Ballistic406 said: ↑

Finally figured out how you people catch so many c-sats and now your monies belong to me.
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Turn the panda on?

jdzane · Dec 15, 2017

holy crap I caught 5 baby c-stats! Yay for fast clicking!

Ballistic406 · Dec 15, 2017

Tecnique said: ↑

Turn the panda on?
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precisely

noah_survived · Dec 15, 2017

ChrisTurk said: ↑

Yeah, post jump is disabled by default. If you also scroll the reply box so no posts are visible it'll stop shoving them in as you're replying, something like this:
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Just enough so only the reply box & buttons are visible will work.
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Thanks. That worked.

I have another general comment/question: Do most of you need to work on mTurk almost day just to make a decent amount? Since losing the Masters qualification, I am working non-stop on here to make on average $50, give or take. In the last month, I had one $100+ day, a couple of $80 days, a couple of $60+ days, but generally, if I can make $45 a day, I feel lucky. As I mentioned earlier, I can't leave my brother alone due to some issues he has been going through so I am supporting both of us on about $250 a week, more or less. It seems clear to me: unless a worker has the Masters or a very good closed qual (which posts often), making a $100 a day is a long shot. With the Masters, sometimes I made $200 in an evening (about 6-7 hours of work) -- now I feel glad to make $20 in the same amount of time.

So, I guess I'm asking, does everybody work like a dog or am I missing something?

I've been on mTurk for close to 3 years and it seems impossible to make minimum wage without closed quals. and/or Masters. Because, even when a good non-Masters batch comes on, it is gone in minutes because everybody is working on it.

CheshireKitty · Dec 15, 2017

Holy C-SATs batman

thlinks · Dec 15, 2017

Sleep Coma said: ↑

Don't listen to that guy, for the Qual do ten at least. I did 5 and got it.

Wtf why you telling people only one?
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Because that's all I saw calm down.

I'm constantly helping people out here with whatever they need help with.

gurlondrums · Dec 15, 2017

ChrisTurk said: ↑

Strictly just my personal opinion/personality/philosophy. I agree with the base sentiment it'd be cool if every human was awesome and didn't get frustrated/angry/sad/nervous but that's... not possible. Minimize? Sure OK lets aim for that.

But anyway, far as my view, If you release something for free, you're doing it for a reason. Whatever that reason is, you essentially know what you're getting in to and if you can't handle the negative consequences (people Grinching, asking for more more more, etc) then don't release it because those are pretty bland/mild given the circumstance:

The power dynamic is forking broken between scripters & their users. Users have zero power, there's really nothing they can do other than complain. Scripters get the knowledge, the social recognition, the experience, the super OP scripts, etc etc. End users get a script (presumably for free, since that's usually the argument attached to "don't complain!" - though gurl's post was way better and more nuanced than that). Cool, good for them, but the scripter is entirely in control of the agreement/arrangement. They opted in to it and provided something of value in an arrangement they asked for nothing in return for. They made that choice, not the end user. And they can opt out of it too whenever they want and there's nothing the end user can do. That creates a dynamic similar to the one with mTurk where you're left with something really really valuable / necessary for the end-user to survive but something in which s/he has zero control/impact on. That's a frustrating way to live life (or an existence on mTurk, anyway), and its why anyone who can opt for self-written does so, even when their self-written tools are probably worse than public stuff at the start (when they're just learning, etc).

Anyway, as far as it impacts me, I don't give a hoot when people whine/complain/report 800 bugs that aren't really bugs with TH/TV/etc. I'd rather have bad data than no data, and a lot of people feel put off reporting bugs & such when the sentiment is "its free, don't complain!" so I generally don't support it. If you don't want to be complained to/at, don't put your name on something that has value and give it to people

I want to get things done and the way/manner in which it gets done doesn't matter as much as it being done. Which is why I'm going to have to go back through this post that I just blazed out as fast as I could and soften the wording LOL. So yeah, I think the social stuff is nice & all, but, realistically its impractical (IMO) and pretty much removes the one and only avenue of "power" in the relationship the end user has as far as mturk script author/user dynamics go around here. Don't get me wrong I have emotions/feelings and there are no doubt times I get annoyed if someone tags me for something stupid while I'm working on real work but, at a base level, I'd say this is my general philosophy on doing crap for the mTurk community. You'll catch me slipping from time to time, but I try to have thick skin because its better for me to have users Grinching than no users at all
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I love the way you put this.

And you know my reasoning behind my post, so.

SleepComa · Dec 15, 2017

Don't be a good neighbor to her. I'll send you a love letter.

Straight from my heart, fucker! You know what a love letter is? It's a bullet from a fucking gun, fucker! You receive a love letter from me, you're fucked forever! You understand, fuck? I'll send you straight to hell, fucker!

Eisenpower · Dec 15, 2017

ChrisTurk said: ↑

Strictly just my personal opinion/personality/philosophy. I agree with the base sentiment it'd be cool if every human was awesome and didn't get frustrated/angry/sad/nervous but that's... not possible. Minimize? Sure OK lets aim for that.

But anyway, far as my view, If you release something for free, you're doing it for a reason. Whatever that reason is, you essentially know what you're getting in to and if you can't handle the negative consequences (people Grinching, asking for more more more, etc) then don't release it because those are pretty bland/mild given the circumstance:

The power dynamic is forking broken between scripters & their users. Users have zero power, there's really nothing they can do other than complain. Scripters get the knowledge, the social recognition, the experience, the super OP scripts, etc etc. End users get a script (presumably for free, since that's usually the argument attached to "don't complain!" - though gurl's post was way better and more nuanced than that). Cool, good for them, but the scripter is entirely in control of the agreement/arrangement. They opted in to it and provided something of value in an arrangement they asked for nothing in return for. They made that choice, not the end user. And they can opt out of it too whenever they want and there's nothing the end user can do. That creates a dynamic similar to the one with mTurk where you're left with something really really valuable / necessary for the end-user to survive but something in which s/he has zero control/impact on. That's a frustrating way to live life (or an existence on mTurk, anyway), and its why anyone who can opt for self-written does so, even when their self-written tools are probably worse than public stuff at the start (when they're just learning, etc).

Anyway, as far as it impacts me, I don't give a hoot when people whine/complain/report 800 bugs that aren't really bugs with TH/TV/etc. I'd rather have bad data than no data, and a lot of people feel put off reporting bugs & such when the sentiment is "its free, don't complain!" so I generally don't support it. If you don't want to be complained to/at, don't put your name on something that has value and give it to people

I want to get things done and the way/manner in which it gets done doesn't matter as much as it being done. Which is why I'm going to have to go back through this post that I just blazed out as fast as I could and soften the wording LOL. So yeah, I think the social stuff is nice & all, but, realistically its impractical (IMO) and pretty much removes the one and only avenue of "power" in the relationship the end user has as far as mturk script author/user dynamics go around here. Don't get me wrong I have emotions/feelings and there are no doubt times I get annoyed if someone tags me for something stupid while I'm working on real work but, at a base level, I'd say this is my general philosophy on doing crap for the mTurk community. You'll catch me slipping from time to time, but I try to have thick skin because its better for me to have users Grinching than no users at all
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I can't say I agree with your opinion, but I do respect your POV about it. It is definitely interesting, if nothing else. I don't think it's really bad to hold this opinion, but I just fully agree with it. I appreciate you sharing it though; I wasn't really expecting you to. It's definitely an interesting insight.

Hummingbirdee · Dec 15, 2017

gurlondrums said: ↑

And prescription price is only part of it. There's cleaning sprays I have to buy that are more expensive but I can breathe when I use them. Or like, mid summer, when it's a super humid day, and everyone's outside enjoying the sun... I have to stay inside because walking a normal pace for more than 2 minutes is impossible. Yaaaaay.

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Bearnie and I are on the same inhaler LOL.

Turkinstien · Dec 15, 2017

noah_survived said: ↑

Thanks. That worked.

I have another general comment/question: Do most of you need to work on mTurk almost day just to make a decent amount? Since losing the Masters qualification, I am working non-stop on here to make on average $50, give or take. In the last month, I had one $100+ day, a couple of $80 days, a couple of $60+ days, but generally, if I can make $45 a day, I feel lucky. As I mentioned earlier, I can't leave my brother alone due to some issues he has been going through so I am supporting both of us on about $250 a week, more or less. It seems clear to me: unless a worker has the Masters or a very good closed qual (which posts often), making a $100 a day is a long shot. With the Masters, sometimes I made $200 in an evening (about 6-7 hours of work) -- now I feel glad to make $20 in the same amount of time.

So, I guess I'm asking, does everybody work like a dog or am I missing something?

I've been on mTurk for close to 3 years and it seems impossible to make minimum wage without closed quals. and/or Masters. Because, even when a good non-Masters batch comes on, it is gone in minutes because everybody is working on it.
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May I ask how you lost Masters?

jdzane · Dec 15, 2017

gurlondrums said: ↑

And prescription price is only part of it. There's cleaning sprays I have to buy that are more expensive but I can breathe when I use them. Or like, mid summer, when it's a super humid day, and everyone's outside enjoying the sun... I have to stay inside because walking a normal pace for more than 2 minutes is impossible. Yaaaaay.

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cool, I'm not the only one who can't breath water? Or air that is more than 70% humid?

gurlondrums · Dec 15, 2017

jdzane said: ↑

cool, I'm not the only one who can't breath water? Or air that is more than 70% humid?
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Nope!

ChrisTurk · Dec 15, 2017

gurlondrums said: ↑

I love the way you put this.

And you know my reasoning behind my post, so.
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Haha, I shouldn't have said I disagreed with your post. Obviously I agree with it (ONLY SHOWER ME WITH LOVE PLEBS, ONLY LOVE!) I just don't want it applied to anything I do because I end up losing feedback lol.

Eisenpower said: ↑

I can't say I agree with your opinion, but I do respect your POV about it. It is definitely interesting, if nothing else. I don't think it's really bad to hold this opinion, but I just fully agree with it. I appreciate you sharing it though; I wasn't really expecting you to. It's definitely an interesting insight.
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So what do you think then? How do you expect people to interact given the dynamics at play?

CheshireKitty · Dec 15, 2017

I feel like C-SATs would have a comedy gold mine if they recorded my voice while i'm watching the videos.

"OH WHOA THAT'S SO COOL"
"WAIT WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU DOING?!"
"OH COME ON, I COULD DO THAT BETTER THAN YOU."

Hummingbirdee · Dec 15, 2017

Me: I'm an adult. I can go in and out of Albertsons without any extra purchases.

Me 10 minutes later: I can't not buy this penguin pyrex. Come on.

thlinks · Dec 15, 2017

CheshireKitty said: ↑

I feel like C-SATs would have a comedy gold mine if they recorded my voice while i'm watching the videos.

"OH WHOA THAT'S SO COOL"
"WAIT WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU DOING?!"
"OH COME ON, I COULD DO THAT BETTER THAN YOU."
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Im always entertained when my daughter walks in right when I'm watching one of the videos.

jdzane · Dec 15, 2017

CheshireKitty said: ↑

I feel like C-SATs would have a comedy gold mine if they recorded my voice while i'm watching the videos.

"OH WHOA THAT'S SO COOL"
"WAIT WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU DOING?!"
"OH COME ON, I COULD DO THAT BETTER THAN YOU."
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omg yes. Or "Why the hell did you take the camera out??? There was nothing wrong with it you idiot!"

SleepComa · Dec 15, 2017

thlinks said: ↑

Because that's all I saw calm down.

I'm constantly helping people out here with whatever they need help with.
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Mufucka you think this is a game? NO

THIS IS MTURK LYFE.

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